We’ve all seen it in the movies. A character has an invisibility cloak, or drinks a potion, or perhaps turns into a ghost. And then, oooh how tantalizing, they can see what goes on when they’re not around.

Well as our latest guest explains it, we shouldn’t just think of that kind of moment as some sort of sci-fi fantasy. We should work as if we’re trying to optimize that conversation.

As she puts it – “It's about what people say when you are not in the room.”

To hear the story behind that lesson, along with many more lesson-filled stories, I talked to Allyson Havener, Chief Marketing Officer, TrustRadius [https://www.trustradius.com/].

Stories (with lessons) about what she made in marketing

• Creating a category is one of the most difficult GTM strategies, but if you have enough conviction, time, and Money to pull it off, it's worth it
• Done is better than perfect
• It's about what people say when you are not in the room
• Align marketing initiatives to revenue
• Lead marketing strategy with the voice of your customers
• Partner to understand the investment needed for Growth while also achieving profitability

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Daniel Burstein is the Senior Director of Content and Marketing at MarketingSherpa and the host of the ‘How I Made It In Marketing’ podcast, where he talks to marketing leaders about the lessons learned through their careers.

He also reports on successful marketing campaigns and industry data in MarketingSherpa articles, and helps facilitate the AI Guild from MarketingSherpa's parent organization, MECLABS Institute.

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