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Pantsuit Politics is a podcast for real conversations that help us understand politics, democracy, and the news - while still treating each other like thoughtful human beings. We take a different approach to the news; our political analysis blends hard facts with important social and cultural undercurrents so you don’t miss the big picture. Over years of discussing everything from abortion to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, we established basic rules of engagement, which we describe in our books, Now What? How to Move Forward When We’re Divided (About Basically Everything) (2022) and I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening): A Guide to Grace-Filled Political Conversation (2019). Listeners describe us as “America’s political therapists” and “our trusted, smarter friends who can help us make sense of the world.”

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The Nuanced Life: Serendipity, Incompetence, And New Beginnings &Raquo; 1716490995567 7C5D505B5A64Da39387D9A5F89D6413E Scaled
The Nuanced Life: Serendipity, Incompetence, and New Beginnings

We're thrilled to be kicking off our limited-run return of The Nuanced Life. We hope this summer series is refreshing and encouraging to you. We'll answer listener questions, commemorate moments big a…

We're thrilled to be…

We're thrilled to be kicking off our limited-run return of The Nuanced Life. We hope this summer series is refreshing and encouraging to you. We'll answer listener questions, commemorate moments big and small, and discuss everything from career changes to family to romance and more.TOPICS DISCUSSEDWhat We Expect of OurselvesKim’s Move and Sarah’s DogEmily and Lauryn’s New JobsVisit our website for complete show notes and episode resources.Enjoying The Nuanced Life? Learn more about this limited summer run and find old episodes on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mo…

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Global Elections And Presidential Power With Doris Kearns Goodwin &Raquo; 1717696292736 31A90461257797571Dc7198096F97404 Scaled
Global Elections and Presidential Power with Doris Kearns Goodwin

We are delighted to welcome Doris Kearns Goodwin, the incomparable author and historian. Sarah and Beth discuss her new memoir and her front row seat to some major moments in American history. TOPICS …

We are delighted to …

We are delighted to welcome Doris Kearns Goodwin, the incomparable author and historian. Sarah and Beth discuss her new memoir and her front row seat to some major moments in American history. TOPICS DISCUSSEDElections in India and MexicoPresidential Power and History with Doris Kearns GoodwinVisit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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What You Need To Know About The Trump Conviction &Raquo; 1717689061373 695089924Ae77Cc5A184D3251Fa1E803 Scaled
What You Need to Know About the Trump Conviction

Last week, American history was made when former president Donald Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony - 34 of them, in fact. Today, Sarah and Beth get into the details of wha…

Last week, American …

Last week, American history was made when former president Donald Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony - 34 of them, in fact. Today, Sarah and Beth get into the details of what this conviction means, what may happen next, and the responses to the conviction from people across the political spectrum. Thank you for blowing our listener survey goal out of the water! If you didn’t get a chance to take the survey, your response still matters to us and our network. You can take the survey through this link.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Ho…

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I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This With Chelsea Devantez &Raquo; 1640871340611 5620C40F2Fc5Bd36B4E6Fc0Deada8C1C Scaled
I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This with Chelsea Devantez

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversati…

One of our dearest p…

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversation about the book, her experience with domestic violence, being conceived with a sperm donor, and so much more. This is a rich, funny, deep conversation you won’t want to miss.Please take a moment to complete our Pantsuit Politics Listener Survey. This helps our advertising sales team to have better information about our audience, which helps the revenue for our small business and keeps this sho…

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I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This With Chelsea Devantez &Raquo; 1717421829550 E193216Dbb7751Ff99D1E7C257C15808 Scaled
I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This with Chelsea Devantez

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversati…

One of our dearest p…

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversation about the book, her experience with domestic violence, being conceived with a sperm donor, and so much more. This is a rich, funny, deep conversation you won’t want to miss.Please take a moment to complete our Pantsuit Politics Listener Survey. This helps our advertising sales team to have better information about our audience, which helps the revenue for our small business and keeps this sho…

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I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This With Chelsea Devantez &Raquo; 1640871340611 5620C40F2Fc5Bd36B4E6Fc0Deada8C1C Scaled
I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This with Chelsea Devantez

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversati…

One of our dearest p…

One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversation about the book, her experience with domestic violence, being conceived with a sperm donor, and so much more. This is a rich, funny, deep conversation you won’t want to miss.Please take a moment to complete our Pantsuit Politics Listener Survey. This helps our advertising sales team to have better information about our audience, which helps the revenue for our small business and keeps this sho…

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The Trump Verdict, Justice Alito, And “All Eyes On Rafah” &Raquo; 1717107091197 8Acaeca4Fea130A2A4450484C075C991 Scaled
The Trump Verdict, Justice Alito, and “All Eyes on Rafah”

Sarah and Beth share how they are thinking about several ongoing news stories, including the controversy surrounding Justice Alito and the continuing horrors in Gaza. They also interrupt our own episo…

Sarah and Beth share…

Sarah and Beth share how they are thinking about several ongoing news stories, including the controversy surrounding Justice Alito and the continuing horrors in Gaza. They also interrupt our own episode for a real-time response to the conviction of former president Trump.TOPICS DISCUSSEDDonald Trump Convicted of 34 FeloniesJustice Alito and the FlagsDevelopments in the Israel-Hamas WarOutside of Politics: GraduationVisit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Political (And Royal) Fashion With Elizabeth Holmes &Raquo; 1716319909988 2Bf25Bbd70836044E38F749C1B389410 Scaled
Political (and Royal) Fashion with Elizabeth Holmes

We are delighted to share this conversation with Elizabeth Holmes of So Many Thoughts. Elizabeth is a former Wall Street Journal style reporter and current Fashion commentator who gives political and …

We are delighted to …

We are delighted to share this conversation with Elizabeth Holmes of So Many Thoughts. Elizabeth is a former Wall Street Journal style reporter and current Fashion commentator who gives political and royal Fashion the serious, thoughtful, and fun coverage it deserves.Join us on May 30th for The Nuanced Life Live to kick off our summer series with a virtual workshop on work-life balance.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Impending Trump Verdict And A Path Forward For Mental Health &Raquo; 1716478038999 Fef8Ad22Aa1B0219C41927D627397Ff5 Scaled
The Impending Trump Verdict and a Path Forward for Mental Health

The verdict in the first criminal trial of former president Donald Trump will likely come down next week. Sarah and Beth discuss how they are thinking about the case. Then, they talk to a therapist ab…

The verdict in the f…

The verdict in the first criminal trial of former president Donald Trump will likely come down next week. Sarah and Beth discuss how they are thinking about the case. Then, they talk to a therapist about the difference between mental health as a concern and mental health as content.TOPICS DISCUSSEDThe Criminal Trial of Former President Donald J. TrumpMental Health as Content with Jacey VerdicchioOutside of Politics: Alexa EtiquetteJoin us on May 30th for The Nuanced Life Live to kick off our summer series with a virtual workshop on work-life balance.Visit our website for complete show notes an…

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The Feminist Backlash And Minority Whip Katherine Clark On Affordable Childcare &Raquo; 1716229209733 B41385768Bec165969Bed49530Ec6963 Scaled
The Feminist Backlash and Minority Whip Katherine Clark on Affordable Childcare

Sarah and Beth discuss Harrison Butker's controversial commencement speech and more widespread symptoms of feminist backlash. Next, they share this conversation on childcare policy with House Minority…

Sarah and Beth discu…

Sarah and Beth discuss Harrison Butker's controversial commencement speech and more widespread symptoms of feminist backlash. Next, they share this conversation on childcare policy with House Minority Whip Katherine Clark.TOPICS DISCUSSEDHarrison Butker and Feminist BacklashHouse Minority Whip Katherine Clark on Affordable ChildcareOutside of Politics: Smell Maxxing and Perfume EtiquetteJoin us on May 30th for The Nuanced Life Live to kick off our summer series with a virtual workshop on work-life balance.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See aca…

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Inside The Trump Trial With Norm Eisen &Raquo; 1715878165547 1D609683135Ed01Cc98D1032D1033Ece Scaled
Inside the Trump Trial with Norm Eisen

We talked to Ambassador Eisen about what he's seeing inside the courtroom at the Trump hush money trial. Plus, presidential debates have been scheduled for June and September and Sarah and Beth have t…

We talked to Ambassa…

We talked to Ambassador Eisen about what he's seeing inside the courtroom at the Trump hush money trial. Plus, presidential debates have been scheduled for June and September and Sarah and Beth have thoughts.TOPICS DISCUSSEDPresidential Debates ScheduledEthics and the Trump Trial with Ambassador Norm EisenOutside of Politics: Baby HawksJoin us on May 30th for The Nuanced Life Live to kick off our summer series with a virtual workshop on work-life balance.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Doing The Local Work With Rosemary Ketchum &Raquo; 1640871340611 5620C40F2Fc5Bd36B4E6Fc0Deada8C1C Scaled
Doing the Local Work with Rosemary Ketchum

We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that we released to our Premium subscribers today. To support the show and get access to content like this multiple times e…

We're sharing an epi…

We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that we released to our Premium subscribers today. To support the show and get access to content like this multiple times each week, subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.We're delighted to welcome Rosemary Ketchum back to Pantsuit Politics. Rosemary joined us in June 2020 when she became the first out transgender public servant in West Virginia's history. Since then, Rosemary has done awesome work in her community and we wanted to invite her back for an update as part of…

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Corruption Trials And Election Protection &Raquo; 1715620945335 2713825F71C32Eeaabfb715C171Cda72 Scaled
Corruption Trials and Election Protection

We discuss corruption in government and speak with former Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar about election security and announce our summer plans.TOPICS DISCUSSEDCorruption Trials of Dona…

We discuss corruptio…

We discuss corruption in government and speak with former Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar about election security and announce our summer plans.TOPICS DISCUSSEDCorruption Trials of Donald Trump, Bob Menendez, and Henry CuellarKathy Boockvar on Securing our ElectionsOutside of Politics: Coming this Summer: The Nuanced LifeJoin us on May 30th for The Nuanced Life Live to kick off our summer series with a virtual workshop on work-life balance.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Studying Conservatism On A Liberal Campus With Eitan Hersh &Raquo; 1715194576403 D90D5414Ca550D8B2D3Dbd88Fabc5Ef2 Scaled
Studying Conservatism on a Liberal Campus with Eitan Hersh

We speak with Tufts University professor Eitan Hersh about his unique course, which explores conservative political theory with the largely liberal student population at the school. TOPICS DISCUSSEDTe…

We speak with Tufts …

We speak with Tufts University professor Eitan Hersh about his unique course, which explores conservative political theory with the largely liberal student population at the school. TOPICS DISCUSSEDTeaching Conservative Policy at Tufts with Eitan HershOutside of Politics: The Met GalaOur newsletter has moved! Follow Us On Substack.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Fafsa And The Brokenness Of College Admissions &Raquo; 1715026112152 C4Cee95E02Fd1Cfee3Ad4D0E0Ebfeb0A Scaled
FAFSA and the Brokenness of College Admissions

We discuss the tentative ceasefire negotiations in Gaza. Then, we share a conversation with an independent college admissions counselor about what's going on with the FAFSA application this year and h…

We discuss the tenta…

We discuss the tentative ceasefire negotiations in Gaza. Then, we share a conversation with an independent college admissions counselor about what's going on with the FAFSA application this year and how that rolling disaster is impacting students and families across the country.TOPICS DISCUSSEDTentative Ceasefire Negotiations in GazaFAFSA Complications with Sara BittnerOutside of Politics: Summer AspirationsCORRECTION: The Pell Grant does not run out. There are lifetime limits per student on the Pell Grant and basically every other grant that exists is first-come, first-served, but not Pell. …

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Mike Johnson, Indirect Rule, And Steel Magnolias &Raquo; 1640871340611 5620C40F2Fc5Bd36B4E6Fc0Deada8C1C Scaled
Mike Johnson, Indirect Rule, and Steel Magnolias

We discuss the possible ouster of Speaker Johnson and how indirect rule shapes foreign policy. Plus, the 35th anniversary of Steel Magnolias. TOPICS DISCUSSEDMike Johnson and Polarization in CongressA…

We discuss the possi…

We discuss the possible ouster of Speaker Johnson and how indirect rule shapes foreign policy. Plus, the 35th anniversary of Steel Magnolias. TOPICS DISCUSSEDMike Johnson and Polarization in CongressA Potential Ceasefire in GazaIndirect Rule with David LakeOutside of Politics: Steel MagnoliasOur newsletter is Moving! Follow Us On Substack. If you subscribe to our Premium Content via Apple Podcasts Subscriptions, be sure to enter your email address here to get your member updates from Sarah and Beth.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/…

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Campus Protests And The Trump Trial &Raquo; 1714422437779 Aa1E8873E9632Be065Fcc627F5277732 Scaled
Campus Protests and The Trump Trial

Sarah and Beth discuss what's going on with the campus protests and with the former president and current Republican frontrunner. Outside of politics, we talk about our weekends. TOPICS DISCUSSEDCampu…

Sarah and Beth discu…

Sarah and Beth discuss what's going on with the campus protests and with the former president and current Republican frontrunner. Outside of politics, we talk about our weekends. TOPICS DISCUSSEDCampus Protests Donald Trump’s Trial and Legal MorassOutside of Politics: Busy WeekendsOur Newsletter is Moving! Follow Us On Substack. If you subscribe to our Premium Content via Apple Podcasts Subscriptions, be sure to enter your email address here to get your member updates from Sarah and Beth.Visit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy …

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Tech In Schools With Jessica Grose &Raquo; 1713988220049 8Bca4B292Dee53Bfec7F70C89B8B0840 Scaled
Tech in Schools with Jessica Grose

TOPICS DISCUSSEDTech in Schools with Jessica GroseOutside of Politics: Cup ManagementTo support the show and join our slow read of Democracy in America, please subscribe to our Premium content on our …

TOPICS DISCUSSEDTech…

TOPICS DISCUSSEDTech in Schools with Jessica GroseOutside of Politics: Cup ManagementTo support the show and join our slow read of Democracy in America, please subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts SubscriptionsVisit our website for complete show notes and episode resources. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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