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April 9th, 2025

Learner Personas- How thinking like a marketer can transform learning with Bianca Baumann

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Joel SilverstoneLearner Personas- How thinking like a marketer can transform learning with Bianca Baumann
  1. Learner Personas- How thinking like a marketer can transform learning with Bianca Baumann Joel Silverstone 24:32

What happens when you design learning like a marketer?

In this episode of TFR: This Feels Right, we explore how applying marketing principles—like audience personas, messaging, and content strategy—can lead to more engaging and impactful learning experiences.

Our guest, Bianca Baumann, is the VP of Learning Solutions & Innovation at Ardent Learning and a global voice in rethinking how we approach L&D.

She introduces us to the power of learner personas—a tool that helps professionals move beyond surface-level audience analysis and connect with what learners think, feel, and need to succeed. When people feel seen and understood, they’re more likely to engage, apply what they’ve learned, and feel like they’re making a difference.

Bianca also shares insights from her upcoming book, Think Like a Marketer, Train Like an L&D Pro, co-authored with Mike Taylor. It’s a practical guide to reimagining learning through a marketing lens—and building programs that truly resonate.

“At the heart of it, people want to know: Am I making a difference? When you design learning with that in mind, you shift the whole experience.” – Bianca Baumann

Key Takeaways:

1️⃣ Learner personas help you design with empathy, not assumptions.
2️⃣ Relevance drives engagement—know what matters to your learners.
3️⃣ Marketing isn’t just for selling—it’s a blueprint for connection and behavior change.

👉 Learn more at trainlikeamarketer.com

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Joel Silverstone Communication Skills Trainer, Coach and Speaker.

Joel Silverstone is a communication and influence expert, coach, and host of This Feels Right: TFR, a globally ranked podcast on impactful communication and leadership skills with listeners in over 45 countries.

Joel helps leaders confidently connect, influence, and inspire, drawing on his extensive global experience in high-stakes presentations, difficult conversations, leadership presence and team dynamics.

As the founder of TFR Training & Coaching, he has supported leading companies such as Kearney Consulting, RBC, TD, CIBC, Microsoft, and Abbott.

His work has been featured at ATD, I4PL, and DisruptHR, and he regularly shares insights at conferences and through international podcasts.

Beyond his work, Joel is an avid obstacle race participant. He continuously challenges himself on courses and tries to develop new techniques to tackle tough obstacles like the rings.

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