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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with hospital CEO, Geoffrey Hall, to discuss leadership Growth, culture, Burnout, employee engagement, and what it takes to lead effectively in t…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with hospital CEO, Geoffrey Hall, to discuss leadership growth, culture, burnout, employee engagement, and what it takes to lead effectively in today's healthcare environment. Geoffrey shares the pivotal leadership moment that changed his career when, at just 23 years old, he unexpectedly found himself running a hospital and quickly learned that leadership is about more than working harder, moving faster, or having all the answers. Together, Mike and Geoffrey explore the difference between management and leadership, the dangers of promotin…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour explores five powerful laws that are quietly influencing your leadership every day, whether you realize it or not. From fear-driven decision-m…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour explores five powerful laws that are quietly influencing your leadership every day, whether you realize it or not. From fear-driven decision-making and unclear thinking to personal responsibility, leadership influence, and the power of better judgment, Mike breaks down how these invisible forces shape the way leaders communicate, make decisions, develop teams, and create culture. Drawing from decades of experience, Mike explains why many leadership challenges are not operational problems at all. They are thinking problems. He challenges…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Kurt Mosley and Neill Marshall of HealthSearch Partners to discuss one of the most critical periods in a leader’s career: the first 90 day…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Kurt Mosley and Neill Marshall of HealthSearch Partners to discuss one of the most critical periods in a leader’s career: the first 90 days. Drawing from decades of experience placing healthcare executives and interviewing successful leaders across the country, Kurt and Neill share what separates leaders who build trust and momentum quickly from those who struggle to gain traction. They explore why many leaders fail by moving too fast, the importance of listening before acting, and how the most effective executives earn authority ra…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Amanda Housh, co-founder and CEO of Oklahoma Pediatric Therapy Center, to discuss what it takes to build culture, develop leaders, and grow …

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Amanda Housh, co-founder and CEO of Oklahoma Pediatric Therapy Center, to discuss what it takes to build culture, develop leaders, and grow healthy organizations without leadership becoming the bottleneck. Amanda shares the journey of growing OPTC from a small startup into a multi-location organization while staying anchored to mission, values, and culture. They explore the tension many healthcare leaders face when transitioning from clinician to executive leader, the importance of leadership development at every level, and why organi…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour breaks down what separates average leadership from elite leadership through what he calls the 7 Pillars of the Elite Leader. Mike explains why…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour breaks down what separates average leadership from elite leadership through what he calls the 7 Pillars of the Elite Leader. Mike explains why most leadership breakdowns do not start externally—they start internally. While many organizations focus heavily on tactical leadership skills, Mike argues that sustainable leadership growth begins with self-awareness, emotional regulation, adaptability, and the ability to lead consistently under pressure. Throughout the episode, he walks through 7 critical leadership capacities that directly s…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Aja Chavez, Vice President of Adolescent Services at AMFM Healthcare, to discuss the hidden organizational cost of unresolved leadership iss…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike sits down with Aja Chavez, Vice President of Adolescent Services at AMFM Healthcare, to discuss the hidden organizational cost of unresolved leadership issues, culture during rapid growth, and what it takes to build mission-driven healthcare teams. They explore how leadership Clarity reduces overwhelm, why organizations slowly adapt around unresolved problems, and the impact the wrong leadership hire can have on culture, retention, and operational trust. Aja also shares practical insight on helping leaders create ownership at the front lines while m…

On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Barbara Gustavson—author of Regroup and a brain Health educator—to explore a reality many leaders are living but rarely nam…

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On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Barbara Gustavson—author of Regroup and a brain health educator—to explore a reality many leaders are living but rarely naming: hidden depletion. From the outside, these leaders look steady and capable. Behind the scenes, they’re running on low reserves while continuing to carry the weight of leadership, teams, and responsibilities that don’t pause. At the center of the conversation is a practical truth: Leadership isn’t just about output. It’s about sustaining clarity and steadiness under pressure. Barbara sh…

On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Anthony Stahl, President of White Oak Medical Center, to explore what it really takes to turn around performance in a complex h…

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On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Anthony Stahl, President of White Oak Medical Center, to explore what it really takes to turn around performance in a complex healthcare environment. When Anthony stepped into the role, the organization was facing financial pressure, average quality and safety scores, and low morale. What followed wasn’t a quick fix—it was a deliberate shift in how leadership showed up, how culture was built, and how daily operations were managed. At the center of the conversation is a practical truth: Leadership theory only works if …

On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Maggie Brennan, CEO of North Shore Community Health, to discuss what it really takes to address turnover, burnout, and workforc…

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On this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Maggie Brennan, CEO of North Shore Community Health, to discuss what it really takes to address turnover, burnout, and workforce instability in healthcare. Rather than treating these as market-driven challenges, Maggie shares how her organization reframed them as signals of deeper system issues—and made deliberate changes to better support their people. The conversation walks through a pivotal moment when North Shore faced a significant provider exodus. Instead of blaming external factors, Maggie and her team looked inw…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour takes on a quieter, more dangerous breakdown in leadership—what happens when teams believe they’re aligned, but that alignment never reaches ex…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour takes on a quieter, more dangerous breakdown in leadership—what happens when teams believe they’re aligned, but that alignment never reaches execution. He walks through a pattern seen repeatedly in healthcare organizations: strong strategy, clear intent, and apparent agreement at the top—followed by slow, fragmented execution across the system. Not because leaders don’t care, but because alignment stopped at words and never translated into behavior. Mike breaks this down in stages, showing how misalignment stays hidden early on, then…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Scott Becker, founder and publisher of Becker’s Healthcare, to explore what separates organizations that grow from those that…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Scott Becker, founder and publisher of Becker’s Healthcare, to explore what separates organizations that grow from those that stall—and why leadership evolution is at the center of it. Drawing from decades of experience building businesses across healthcare, media, and professional services, Scott breaks down the stages leaders must move through as their organizations grow. He explains why many leaders become the limiting factor without realizing it, and how the shift from doing everything to delegating to building te…

In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Tom Dahlborg, healthcare executive and author of From Heart to Head and Back Again, to examine what happens when leadership bec…

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In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour sits down with Tom Dahlborg, healthcare executive and author of From Heart to Head and Back Again, to examine what happens when leadership becomes overly transactional in a system that depends on human connection. Drawing from his experience as both a leader and a patient, Tom challenges the assumption that better outcomes come from better metrics—and instead points to the standard of leadership underneath them. They discuss why healthcare has seen limited progress in patient safety and experience despite decades of focus, and how an …