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What if you could turn a childhood hobby into a 23-year career protecting the digital frontier? Join us as we sit down with Frankie, better known as Dr. Frankie or Hacker Frankie, who takes us on an extraordinary journey from his early days tinkering with Windows 3.1 to becoming an Air Force cyber operations officer. Hear about his accidental start in cybersecurity—beginning with troubleshooting his father’s old IBM laptop—and how this led to a profession defending against the most sophisticated digital threats.

We dive into Frankie's fascinating transition from an underground hacker to an ethical hacker and Air Force officer. Discover how hacking payphones, scripting AOL bots, and reverse engineering games paved his way into a prestigious Airman’s commissioning program. Frankie shares the challenges and triumphs of moving from enlisted ranks to becoming an officer, offering a unique perspective on the intersection of cybersecurity and military service. His stories from the early days of the Internet, including phone freaking and collaborating on piracy scenes, provide a nostalgic yet insightful look into the underground world of hacking.

In the latter part of our episode, we explore the complexities and real-life stakes of cybersecurity careers. Frankie recounts gripping tales of dealing with logic bombs and ransomware attacks as an IT manager for a Department of Defense contractor. He also offers practical advice for those interested in entering the cybersecurity field, emphasizing the importance of certifications and hands-on experience. Whether you're a seasoned professional or a curious novice, Frankie's insights into the evolving landscape of cybersecurity will leave you both grounded and inspired. Don't miss this enlightening conversation that highlights the importance of staying alert and optimistic in the face of ever-evolving digital threats.

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Patrick Bass is a master of deception detection, possessing an uncanny ability to read people and uncover the truth. This unique talent has been honed over nearly 28 years as a seasoned investigator and expert in human nature, misdirection, and behavioral analysis. A shadowy figure in the world of cybersecurity and beyond, Patrick navigates the complex and often unseen realms of technology and business with unparalleled insight.

As an author of two compelling books, a fearless blogger, and a radio host who asks the questions others shy away from, Patrick blends knowledge and intrigue, captivating his audience with every word. His academic achievements, including advanced degrees in Cybersecurity and an MBA, reflect his diverse and profound intellectual journey.

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