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April 6th, 2025

#1143 Four "P's of People | Dave Charest

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Lorraine Ball#1143 Four "P's of People | Dave Charest
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Marketing is all about connections, but too often, we skip over the most important piece—people. Sure, we love talking about product, price, place, and promotion, but what about the humans behind the strategy? That’s why I brought back Dave Torrez, Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, for a lively chat about the Four P’s of People—peers, pros, patrons, and promoters. Spoiler: your next marketing breakthrough might come from focusing less on what you’re posting and more on who you’re talking to.

Peers Are Your Marketing Wingmen
Think of your peers as your brainstorming buddies—the business owners and marketers walking the same path. Sure, they might be in your industry, but they’re not your competition. Instead, they’re allies who can share insights, lessons learned, and even a little encouragement. As Dave put it, peers can help you grow by sharing their own roadmaps to success.

Pros: Your Marketing Role Models
These are the businesses that make you say, “I want to do that someday.” Dave suggested following pros for inspiration—whether it’s how they craft campaigns or how they interact with their audience. Even better, engaging with their content can lead to new connections with like-minded people. Think of pros as your north star for what’s possible.

Patrons Keep the Lights On
Your customers are your patrons, the folks who not only pay the bills but also provide a goldmine of feedback. Whether you’re creating posts to entertain, educate, or answer their questions, keeping this group engaged can spark deeper loyalty. And when they engage with your content, their networks notice, bringing you closer to your next batch of clients.

Promoters Are Your Secret Weapon
Promoters are the people who sing your praises, often loudly and without being asked. They may not even be customers themselves, but they believe in what you’re doing and love sharing it with their communities. Dave reminded me that it’s worth nurturing those Relationships—comment on their posts, cheer them on, and show them the love they show you.

Remember, success isn’t  about shouting your message into the void. It’s about listening, building relationships, and connecting with the people who matter most to your business.        

Dave Charest

Dave Charest is the Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, the online marketing leader trusted by millions of Small Businesses. In his role, Dave acts as an educator and an advocate for small business leaders, marketing professionals, and nonprofits by providing practical marketing advice to help them achieve their goals.

He is a dynamic leader, speaker, creator, and award-winning marketer who strives to inspire small businesses by simplifying the complex world of online marketing. Dave also hosts the Be a Marketer podcast, a 2024 Webby Awards Honoree.

 

LORRAINE Ball Marketing Strategist

After spending too many years in Corporate America, Lorraine said goodbye to the bureaucracy, glass ceilings and bad coffee to follow her passion to help small business owners succeed

Today, this successful entrepreneur, author, professional speaker, and host of a weekly marketing podcast, More than a Few Words, brings creative ideas, practical tips, and decades of real-world experience to every conversation.

As the founder of the Digital Toolbox Community, she helps business owners use internet marketing to grow. And in her spare time, she loves to travel, and take photos. You can see her photos at lorraineball.com

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