In this week’s episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten and Kellie highlight some of their favorite books from four seasons of the podcast.

Our favorite moments:

• <01:04> How to Tell a Story 
• <01:46>The difference between an anecdote and a story
• <02:33> Stagecraft and speaker choreography
• <03:26> Recognizing what storytellers at The Moth give onstage
• <03:49> Kirsten’s nervous butterflies fly in formation
• <04:19> Cait Donovan, Bouncebackability
• <04:34> Entrepreneurial Burnout
• <05:28> J Schuh, Brilliance
• <06:49> Judging a book by its cover
• <08:02> Tamsen Webster, Find Your Red Thread
• <08:54> Find the throughline and connect with your audience
• <11:38> How you shape the story frames the outcome
• <18:42> Kellie’s goal for Season 5
• <19:07> Kirsten’s goal for Season 5

If you enjoyed this conversation about some of our favorite books and pop culture references, check out Season 1, Episode 1: Hello World! What is Ongoing Mastery? The link is in the show notes.

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Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/d1bKZUGQiRE

For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/WJHeYJbphbs

• S3 Ep25 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – Why Embrace the Beginner Mindset?: Interview with J. Schuh
• S1 Ep 9 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – Interview: Cait Donovan and Why Burnout is Her Superpower
• S3 Ep33 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – How Can I Get My Audience Fully Onboard with My Idea?: Interview with Tamsen Webster
• S2 Ep11 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – Onward and Upward: How Do We Use Ongoing Mastery?
• The Titanic Sub: Ambition and Tragic Hubris in the North Atlantic Abyss
• Bram Stoker | Dracula – Wikipedia
• Mary Shelley | Frankenstein – Wikipedia
• DeConnick & De Landro | Bitch Planet | Image Comics
• Satrapi | Persepolis (comics) – Wikipedia
• Greek myth | Prometheus
• Intro music for Days of Our Lives soap opera
• Paradise Lost: Book  1 (1674 version) by John… | Poetry Foundation
• Cait Donovan’s book: The Bouncebackability Factor: End Burnout, Gain Resilience, and Change the World
• Final Jeopardy theme music
• S1 Ep1 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – Hello World! What is Ongoing Mastery?
• Paul Rubens’ eternal death scene in Buffy the Vampire Slayer
• Tamsen Webster | Find Your Red Thread –
• William Shatner’s acting style, also called the Large Ham – TV Tropes
• Why does everyone hate Comic Sans?
• J Schuh and Bennet Litwin’s book, Brilliance
• The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
• The Moth’s new book | How to Tell a Story
• The Moth | Radio Hour
• Fried. The Burnout Podcast. –
• Home | Innovation Women

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Kirsten Rourke CEO of Rourke Training

Kirsten Rourke is the mouth and mind of Rourke Training, LLC. She is on a mission to create engaging communication in online and in-person presentation and speaking spaces. Kirsten is the creator of the Prep, Practice, & Pivot method for elevating presenting and speaking skills. She works with leaders to transform online educational, sales, and corporate events to meet business and learning goals. She has spoken, coached, trained, and facilitated for thousands of companies internationally since 2000. She speaks on and provides expert coaching on Public Speaking, Running Virtual Events, Instructional Design, Storytelling, and Creating Online Engagement. In addition to being a Certified Technical Trainer and Certified Online Training Professional, she also has a Master’s of Education in Instructional Design. She also runs a podcast and community, Ongoing Mastery: Presenting and Speaking, to support development and improvement in creating successful, targeted results in pitches, sales presentations, training, and high-stake events.