Join us for a discussion about designing on our team routines with intention and structure that helps people thrive at work. Shaun Lee is the co-founder of the 6 Levers Framework. One of my favorite parts of this interview is when he talked about using building cohesion on a team.

You can get the Magnetic Systems Method (and other systems guides) to find issues before they become expensive problems.

Why Your Team Needs Structure to Succeed (And How to Build It Right)

Highlights from the interview:

1. The 6 Levers framework

Shaun provides an overview of the 6 Levers framework, which covers identity, leadership, rhythm, momentum, focus, and cohesion. He explains how these levers help teams and organizations establish shared purpose, align on priorities, and build healthy ways of working.

2. Shaun’s leadership journey and challenges

Shaun shares a personal story about a challenging period when he was the COO of a growing nonprofit organization. He discusses how he struggled to maintain work-life balance and the importance of setting clear boundaries as a leader.

4. Systems and frameworks for self-care and support 

Shaun describes the personal practices he developed to manage Stress and maintain perspective, including daily prayer and journaling, as well as a weekly support group with other leaders. He emphasizes the value of having trusted advisors who can provide honest feedback.

5. Iterating and experimenting with new approaches 

Shaun and Karl discuss the importance of a culture of experimentation and continuous improvement, where teams are willing to try new things, gather feedback, and make adjustments based on what they learn. They highlight the need to balance this with structured rhythms for reflection and refinement.

Learn more about Shaun Lee over at 6 Levers Framework website. You can also connect with him on LinkedIn. Check out his book At the Heart of Work on Amazon.

As always, if you have any questions or want to submit an amazing guest for the podcast, just reach out to me on the Systematic Leader website, and I’ll do my best to get them on. If you enjoy the interview, please take 30 seconds to rate the Systematic Leader podcast on your favorite platform. Thanks!

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Karl Staib founded the SOPguy Method and author of Bring Gratitude. He trains people to create processes that fit the employees’ and the company’s personality. He has been featured by Forbes, NPR and Zen Habits and has worked with great companies such as Philips Global, Southwest Research Institute and Pioneer Nation.

He has been helping clients develop SOPs since 2020, he would likely be utilizing his expertise in workplace happiness and productivity to design effective, efficient, and enjoyable procedures. SOPs are essential for businesses to ensure consistency and quality in their operations, and someone with Karl Staib’s background could bring a unique perspective to this task by focusing not only on the functionality of the procedures but also on how they impact employee satisfaction and morale.