Oklahoma native Ryan Crain had just spent an exhilarating year traveling the world when he found himself back in Oklahoma during the pandemic. He wanted to take a stab at living in another country but most of the borders were closed. Although it was far from his first choice, Mexico was allowing foreigners in. After visiting a few Mexican locales, he and partner Kayla MacArthur landed in Sayulita, a bohemian beach town on Mexico’s west coast. Since moving there almost three years ago the couple has fallen hard for the town and for the Mexican people. To learn more about an unexpected road to surfing paradise, tune in to Episode 182 of Retire There with Gil & Gene. 

Ryan and Kayla’s book is Gravel Roads: One man’s quest around the world to heal, and to live a life with no regrets. Learn more at https://www.ryancrain-author.com/. 

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