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Gilen Chan & Gene Preudhomme Retire There with Gil & Gene Podcast

We are Gilen Chan and Gene Preudhomme, a married couple living in Brooklyn, New York. Gilen recently retired from practicing higher Education law, and Gene, a law librarian, will be retiring soon. We started this podcast 3 years ago in hopes of finding the best place to retire. After 189 episodes of interviewing folks who have moved abroad as well as domestically, we are more confused than ever! It has been an amazing ride and we have made friends all over the world!

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Retire In Fuente De Piedra, Spain Ep 225 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Fuente de Piedra, Spain EP 225

Sarah Wortman has always loved to Travel and long dreamed of buying a home and retiring in Italy. When she and her husband, Lahab, began searching for a property in Tuscany, they repeatedly came up em…

Sarah Wortman has al…

Sarah Wortman has always loved to travel and long dreamed of buying a home and retiring in Italy. When she and her husband, Lahab, began searching for a property in Tuscany, they repeatedly came up empty-handed. After one particularly disappointing attempt, Lahab reminded Sarah that he actually preferred Spain—a country she had never visited. To help her explore the idea, Lahab arranged for Sarah to travel to Spain with her best friend, with an agreement: if she liked it, they would shift their home search there. It didn’t take long for Sarah to fall in Love with Spain. During the trip, sh…

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Retire In Santa Luzia, Portugal - Ep 224 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Santa Luzia, Portugal – EP 224

Retire in Santa Luzia, Portugal From an early age, Barbara Grassey imagined a life for herself in Europe. During the COVID pandemic, she found herself reflecting on that long-held dream—and realizin…

Retire in Santa Luzi…

Retire in Santa Luzia, Portugal From an early age, Barbara Grassey imagined a life for herself in Europe. During the COVID pandemic, she found herself reflecting on that long-held dream—and realizing she had yet to make it a reality. Rather than wait any longer, she made a bold decision. She let go of most of her possessions and boarded a plane to a country she had never visited, where she knew no one and didn’t speak the language. This wasn’t a vacation. Barbara was leaving Florida behind and starting a new chapter in Portugal. Drawn by its warm climate and relaxed pace of life, she set…

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Retire In Aukland, New Zealand - Ep 223 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Aukland, New Zealand – EP 223

Jules and Effin Older were enjoying Retirement in a beautiful rent-controlled apartment in San Francisco until COVID hit and the appeal of big-city life faded. Having lived in New Zealand before, they…

Jules and Effin Olde…

Jules and Effin Older were enjoying retirement in a beautiful rent-controlled apartment in San Francisco until COVID hit and the appeal of big-city life faded. Having lived in New Zealand before, they saw it was handling the pandemic better than most places. Soon they left their apartment, shed most of their belongings, and boarded a mostly empty airliner for New Zealand. Now in their 80s, they’re loving life on an island south of the equator. Hear more about the Olders’ adventures in Auckland, New Zealand on Episode 223 of Retire There with Gil & Gene. Jules and Effin Older’s websit…

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Special Episode - George Siegal, Buying And Building In The Era Of Climate Change - Ep 222 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Special Episode – George Siegal, Buying and Building in the Era of Climate Change – EP 222

Special Episode - George Siegal, Buying and Building in the Era of Climate Change - EP 222 After years in the television industry — including a long run as a weatherman — George Siegal relocated f…

Special Episode - Ge…

Special Episode - George Siegal, Buying and Building in the Era of Climate Change - EP 222 After years in the television industry — including a long run as a weatherman — George Siegal relocated from San Antonio, Texas to Tampa, Florida, only to find himself facing the very extreme weather conditions he once reported on. That experience inspired him to examine how climate change and rising sea levels are reshaping the way we buy and build homes. The result: two award-winning documentaries from Move the World Films — The Last House Standing and Built to Last: Buyer Beware — that explor…

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Special Episode - Federica Grazi, Founder, Mitos Relocation Solutions - Ep &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Special Episode – Federica Grazi, Founder, Mitos Relocation Solutions – EP

Special Episode - Federica Grazi, Founder, Mitos Relocation Solutions - EP 221 Dream of retiring to Europe but have no idea where - or how - to begin? Federica Grazi can help. Through her consulting f…

Special Episode - Fe…

Special Episode - Federica Grazi, Founder, Mitos Relocation Solutions - EP 221 Dream of retiring to Europe but have no idea where - or how - to begin? Federica Grazi can help. Through her consulting firm, Mitos Relocation Solutions, Federica specializes in guiding retirees through every step of moving abroad. From deciding whether relocation is right for you, to choosing the best destination and settling in with confidence, Mitos Relocation provides expert support from start to finish. Hear Federica share her strategic insights on international retirement in Episode 221 of Retire There with Gi…

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Retire In Nyc After Cruising The World - Ep 220 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in NYC after Cruising the World – EP 220

New Yorker Jill Chalsty tried retiring in both South Carolina and Florida—without success. By the end of 2024, she was still recovering from a battle with Cancer and grieving the loss of her husband…

New Yorker Jill Chal…

New Yorker Jill Chalsty tried retiring in both South Carolina and Florida—without success. By the end of 2024, she was still recovering from a battle with cancer and grieving the loss of her husband. Looking for a fresh start, Jill decided to explore potential retirement destinations by embarking on an around-the-world cruise aboard Cunard’s Queen Anne. The ship departed from Brooklyn in January 2025, visiting 26 ports across six continents over four months. After a long but rewarding journey, Jill came to an unexpected conclusion: the best place for her to retire was right where she had b…

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2025 Retire There Year In Review - Ep 219 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
2025 Retire There Year in Review – EP 219

Celebrate the New Year with Gil & Gene! Tune in as we reflect on the remarkable Growth and transformation of the Retire There Podcast throughout 2025. We share what kept us busy this year, revisit…

Celebrate the New Ye…

Celebrate the New Year with Gil & Gene! Tune in as we reflect on the remarkable growth and transformation of the Retire There Podcast throughout 2025. We share what kept us busy this year, revisit highlights, and offer a sneak peek into the exciting plans for 2026. Episode 219 - Link in bio. If you value the Retire There show, consider supporting us by making a donation at buymeacoffee.com/retiretherepod. Each contribution goes towards production expenses. Retire There was featured in the November 27, 2025 issue of Business Insider: We’re Retired Lawyers Who Started a Podcast to Figure O…

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Retire In Merida, Mexico - Ep 218 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Merida, Mexico – EP 218

What would you do if you had to walk away from the thriving Bed & Breakfast you’d run on Mexico’s Pacific Coast for more than 20 years—because of medical issues? That was the challenge facin…

What would you do if…

What would you do if you had to walk away from the thriving Bed & Breakfast you’d run on Mexico’s Pacific Coast for more than 20 years—because of medical issues? That was the challenge facing Canadians Brooke and Rick Gazer. Their solution: relocate to Mérida, the cosmopolitan capital of Mexico’s Yucatán Peninsula. Frequently ranked among the safest cities in North America, Mérida offered them a fresh start and a high quality of life. Discover what it’s like to live there on Episode 218 of Retire There with Gil & Gene. To learn more about life in Mexico, check out Brooke�…

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Special Episode - Andrew Motiwalla, Founder And Ceo Of The Good Life Abroad &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Special Episode – Andrew Motiwalla, Founder and CEO of The Good Life Abroad

Are you considering moving to Europe for retirement but unsure where to start? Andrew Motiwalla’s company, The Good Life Abroad, offers exclusive month-long programs in some of Europe’s most capti…

Are you considering …

Are you considering moving to Europe for retirement but unsure where to start? Andrew Motiwalla’s company, The Good Life Abroad, offers exclusive month-long programs in some of Europe’s most captivating cities for adults 55+. These programs fill the gap between guided tours and independent travel, providing retirees the perfect balance of community and independence. Designed for those eager to live like locals, guests settle into private apartments, enjoy curated activities, and have ample free time to explore—all with the support of a local host and the camaraderie of a small group. To …

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Retire In Fontainebleau, France - Ep 216 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Fontainebleau, France – EP 216

Janice Deerwester, a retired teacher and Widow, was working at Cracker Barrel when a song stopped her in her tracks—Peggy Lee’s “Is That All There Is?” It struck a chord, sparking a deep reali…

Janice Deerwester, a…

Janice Deerwester, a retired teacher and widow, was working at Cracker Barrel when a song stopped her in her tracks—Peggy Lee’s “Is That All There Is?” It struck a chord, sparking a deep realization: there had to be more to life. Determined to make a change, Janice set out to transform her reality. After being captivated by the stunning Chateau de Fontainebleau in a movie, she knew she had found her new home — Fontainebleau, France. At 70, Janice sold most of her belongings, gave away what she could, and embarked on a bold new chapter with just three suitcases, a cat, and a dog in to…

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Retire In Piobbico, Le Marche, Italy - Ep 215 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Piobbico, Le Marche, Italy – EP 215

Ashley and Jason Barton had established careers in the restaurant and hospitality industries in New York City when they realized there was something missing in their lives. With great ambition, but no…

Ashley and Jason Bar…

Ashley and Jason Barton had established careers in the restaurant and hospitality industries in New York City when they realized there was something missing in their lives. With great ambition, but not a lot of Money, they decided to start a cooking school/inn/farm in Italy. The adventurous couple relocated (from Bay Ridge Brooklyn!!) to an agricultural section of Le Marche, outside the small town of Piobbico, a place known worldwide for its annual Festival of the Ugly. The farm, inn and cooking school, known as La Tavola Marche has garnered accolades from numerous prestigious publications. Le…

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Retire In Fort Collins, Colorado - Ep 214 &Raquo; 2024 Logo Rt Square 2
Retire in Fort Collins, Colorado – EP 214

Where can a writer, editor, illustrator, and avid mountain-sports enthusiast find solace and inspiration in semi-retirement? For Peter Moore, the answer was clear: Fort Collins, Colorado. This vibrant…

Where can a writer, …

Where can a writer, editor, illustrator, and avid mountain-sports enthusiast find solace and inspiration in semi-retirement? For Peter Moore, the answer was clear: Fort Collins, Colorado. This vibrant college town is celebrated for its thriving arts scene, live music, theater, craft breweries, and easy access to both ski resorts and Rocky Mountain National Park. After being laid off from a high-level position at a national magazine, Peter and his wife Claire decided to turn the page and start a new chapter in Fort Collins. Today, they’re living their dream in the foothills of the Rockies. He…

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