Jules and Effin Older were enjoying Retirement in a beautiful rent-controlled apartment in San Francisco until COVID hit and the appeal of big-city life faded. Having lived in New Zealand before, they saw it was handling the pandemic better than most places. Soon they left their apartment, shed most of their belongings, and boarded a mostly empty airliner for New Zealand. Now in their 80s, they’re loving life on an island south of the equator. Hear more about the Olders’ adventures in Auckland, New Zealand on Episode 223 of Retire There with Gil & Gene.

Jules and Effin Older’s website is JulesOlder.com. Effin is the author of a children’s trilogy: HELP! Santa is in Trouble, HELP! Easter Bunny is in Trouble, and HELP! Tooth Fairy is in Trouble. Jules also authored a children’s trilogy: Special Ed and the White Force, Special Ed and the Megatroid, and Special Ed and the Hydra-Serpent. 

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