Did you know that over 90% of initial gut feel, is worth paying attention to?
Here’s how you can align your head, heart and body for better and more decisive decision making.
Gayle Hardie is the cofounder of the Global Leadership Foundation and coauthor of The Emotionally Healthy Leader. She’s spent decades helping leaders around the world transform not just their organisations, but themselves through emotional Health, the three centers of intelligence, and what it means to live “above the line.”
In this conversation, Gayle breaks down the science behind why your morning self-talk is literally flooding your body with Stress hormones, how to silence your inner critic with one simple physical gesture, and why your gut instinct is right over 90% of the time (yes, really).
We explore the difference between horizontal skills (the training that doesn’t stick) and vertical development (the inner work that changes everything), plus the profound truth that leaders aren’t determined by what they know but by how they choose to show up.
If you’ve ever ignored your gut, overthought with your head, or let your heart overrule what you knew was right – this episode will show you how to bring all three into alignment for decisions you won’t regret.
In this episode, we explore:
✨ Above the Line vs Below the Line – The framework that transforms how you lead, react, and relate through conscious choice
🧠 The Three Centers of Intelligence – How aligning head, heart, and gut unlocks presence, Clarity, and better decisions
💬 Why Your Self-Talk Matters – How negative words flood your body with cortisol (and the one physical move that stops your inner critic instantly)
💡 The Three Questions That Change Everything – How to access your deepest Wisdom when decisions matter most (you’ll want to write these down)
🎯 Why Most Leadership Training Fails – The difference between horizontal skills and vertical development
🤲 30-Second Practices for Presence – Simple somatic techniques you can use anywhere, anytime
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How do you show up when you’re above the line vs below it? What’s one practice that helps you stay grounded, open, and present?
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💼 CONNECT WITH GAYLE HARDIE
🌐 Website: Global Leadership Foundation
📘 Book: The Emotionally Healthy Leader (coauthored with Malcolm Lazenby)
📸 LinkedIn: Gayle Hardie
🔗 Email: [email protected]
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