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Chad Sowash The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The Chad & Cheese Podcast brings more than 40 years of combined experience to the podcast industry, Chad & Cheese adds a unique perspective and brash flavor to the generally bland stew of hum-drum “yes-yes” and ass-kiss rhetoric that you normally get from people in recruitment, talent management, Technology, and workforce economics.

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Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring W/ Maya Huber &Amp; Phuong Vu &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu

Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing…

Face it, "The Resume…

Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing a massive identity crisis. The old way is broken—so what comes next? The Face-Off: In this fast-paced episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, host Chad Sowash moderates a high-stakes debate between two tech founders reshaping talent acquisition: Phuong Vu (CEO of Telexa): The advocate for the "skills-first" organization. Phuong argues that true skills-based hiring means moving away from sta…

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Indeed'S Ai Bias Machine &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed's AI Bias Machine

If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Liev…

If you’ve been won…

If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Lieven are back to dissect the tech industry's latest "innovations" with their usual cocktail of empathy, candor, and plenty of well-deserved swearing. Indeed’s Blind Faith in AI Sourcing The Stanford Study: Proof You're Being Blacklisted Teaching Your Humanoid Replacement Zuckerberg Says "My Bad" (Sort Of) "Generating assumptive qualifications or requirements is a hiring dec…

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Indeed Finally Got Ai Right? | Stanford Exposes Ai Hiring | $2 Ai Workforce | Meta Admits Mistakes &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed Finally Got AI Right? | Stanford Exposes AI Hiring | $2 AI Workforce | Meta Admits Mistakes

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad, J.T. and Lieven unpack a bombshell Stanford study that claims millions of job seekers are being filtered through the same flawed AI systems and the re…

This week on The Cha…

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad, J.T. and Lieven unpack a bombshell Stanford study that claims millions of job seekers are being filtered through the same flawed AI systems and the results aren't pretty. Meanwhile, Indeed says it has finally cracked AI sourcing with a new assistant that looks beyond keywords. But has the king of job boards actually gotten something right? And if that wasn't enough… Thousands of workers in India are reportedly getting paid just $2 an hour to record everyday tasks—essentially training the very AI systems that could replace them. Oh, and …

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Busting Drug Cartels And Climbing Corporate Ladders: Dea Vet Shares Journey &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Busting Drug Cartels and Climbing Corporate Ladders: DEA Vet Shares Journey

Get ready for an explosive episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome Jack McFarland, a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor, to HR’s Most …

Get ready for an exp…

Get ready for an explosive episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome Jack McFarland, a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor, to HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast. In this high-stakes interview, McFarland bridges the gap between federal law enforcement and corporate leadership, sharing gripping stories from his rise through the streets of Philadelphia during the crack epidemic to commanding major cartel investigations and leading elite teams in the Caribbean. He breaks down the elite psychology of hand-picking teams, the critical art of …

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What The Fbi &Amp; Dea Look For In Candidates (From A 32-Year Veteran) | Jack Mcfarland &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
What the FBI & DEA Look For in Candidates (From a 32-Year Veteran) | Jack McFarland

What does it actually take to get hired by the world’s most elite federal law enforcement agencies? On this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Chad and Cheese sit down with Jack McFarland—a…

What does it actuall…

What does it actually take to get hired by the world’s most elite federal law enforcement agencies? On this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Chad and Cheese sit down with Jack McFarland—a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor. From the brutal 9-month typewriter-era application process to the grueling psychological screening tactics used to pick the top 1% of candidates, Jack pulls back the curtain on how the FBI and DEA actually vet talent. We dive deep into high-stakes interview strategies, what civilian corporate recruiters can learn from Quantico’s legendary scr…

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Indeed Goes For The Kill &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed Goes For The Kill

The band is finally back together! This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, Chad, Mo, and Lieven team up for a wild ride across dystopian corporate tracking, AI bias, and the shifting sands of glob…

The band is finally …

The band is finally back together! This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, Chad, Mo, and Lieven team up for a wild ride across dystopian corporate tracking, AI bias, and the shifting sands of global recruitment. If you thought the job market couldn’t get any weirder, you’re going to want to hear this. Here is a look at what the crew is tackling on this week's show: Indeed Goes In For The Kill: Indeed’s new "changing landscape" FAQ drops a massive hint about their latest agenda. Chad explains why the platform is trying to squeeze out recruitment agencies entirely. IBM Te…

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Indeed Cuts Agencies | Ibm Ai Hiring Scandal | Chatgpt Enters Job Search | Meta Employee Tracking &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed Cuts Agencies | IBM AI Hiring Scandal | ChatGPT Enters Job Search | Meta Employee Tracking

The recruitment tech world is getting squeezed, automated, and slightly unhinged and this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast breaks it all down. From Indeed tightening its grip on job feeds, to…

The recruitment tech…

The recruitment tech world is getting squeezed, automated, and slightly unhinged and this episode of the Chad & Cheese Podcast breaks it all down. From Indeed tightening its grip on job feeds, to IBM’s AI hiring controversy, to OpenAI stepping into job search, and Meta experimenting with surveillance + workforce training programs — this is the future of work colliding with reality in real time. In this episode: Indeed is allegedly pushing recruitment marketing agencies out of the job distribution chain, raising serious questions about who controls hiring pipelines and job traffic. Th…

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Marriott Hiring: 2 Weeks to 3 Days

Chad and Joel, drag Meghan Rhatigan (VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott International) into the interrogation room to find out how a hospitality giant survives a global punch in the face…

Chad and Joel, drag…

Chad and Joel, drag Meghan Rhatigan (VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott International) into the interrogation room to find out how a hospitality giant survives a global punch in the face. Marriott used to live in a pre-2020 la-la land where millions of candidates just fell into their laps organically. Then the pandemic hit, the world shut down, and Marriott was caught flat-footed trying to fill 200,000 global roles using the same old clunky tech and slow-as-molasses hiring managers. Enter Meghan and her organizational change management background to fix a "fat funnel" nightma…

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Google &Amp; Openai'S Job Slop &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Google & OpenAI's Job Slop

It is officially Joel-Free June, which means Joel is off on an extended European holiday while Chad holds down the fort with two brilliant industry heavyweights: Emi Beredugo and JT O'Donnell. From …

It is officially Joe…

It is officially Joel-Free June, which means Joel is off on an extended European holiday while Chad holds down the fort with two brilliant industry heavyweights: Emi Beredugo and JT O'Donnell. From boardroom coups and high-stakes acquisitions to massive corporate grifts, the trio dives deep into a chaotic week of HR technology news. Stepstone's Plot Twist JobGet Snaps Up Ripple Match The Job.com Meltdown The Point Solution Funeral Billionaires, Layoffs, & Job Slop AI Lost in Translation Listener Shoutout: A massive shoutout to TA champion Terry Dewey for slashing …

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Stepstone Shakeup | Job.com Fallout | Jobget Acquisition | Google Jobs Spam Crisis &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Stepstone Shakeup | Job.com Fallout | JobGet Acquisition | Google Jobs Spam Crisis

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad Sowash, J.T. O'Donnell, and Emi discuss some of the biggest stories shaping the future of hiring, recruiting technology, and HR tech. They break…

In this episode of T…

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad Sowash, J.T. O'Donnell, and Emi discuss some of the biggest stories shaping the future of hiring, recruiting technology, and HR tech. They break down Stepstone's CEO transition and what it means for the future of job boards, analyze JobGet's acquisition of RippleMatch, and take a deep dive into the ongoing fallout from Job.com's bankruptcy. The conversation also explores George LaRocque's controversial claim that the market has already chosen its winners and losers in HR tech. Are standalone recruiting tools doomed? Will AI and platform …

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