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Chad Sowash The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The Chad & Cheese Podcast brings more than 40 years of combined experience to the podcast industry, Chad & Cheese adds a unique perspective and brash flavor to the generally bland stew of hum-drum “yes-yes” and ass-kiss rhetoric that you normally get from people in recruitment, talent management, Technology, and workforce economics.

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Korn Ferry Swallows Ams, Handshake Grabs Uplimit &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Korn Ferry Swallows AMS, Handshake Grabs Uplimit

Hide your kids and grab your bourbon, because The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back! Joel is finally home from his pretentious European tour—blaming jet lag for being completely rusty—and Emi is h…

Hide your kids and g…

Hide your kids and grab your bourbon, because The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back! Joel is finally home from his pretentious European tour—blaming jet lag for being completely rusty—and Emi is here to keep him from totally derailing. Together, they are tackling a corporate landscape that looks like a beautiful car crash. They're dissecting the massive corporate marriages of Korn Ferry buying AMS and Handshake grabbing Uplimit—are these brilliant strategic moves or absolute train wrecks? Next, they dive into the giant AI oopsies of the week, laughing as Ford frantically rehires 350 hu…

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Korn Ferry Swallows Ams | Handshake Grabs Uplimit | Ford &Amp; Meta’s Ai Struggles | Gen X Layoff Crisis &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Korn Ferry Swallows AMS | Handshake Grabs Uplimit | Ford & Meta’s AI Struggles | Gen X Layoff Crisis

The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back in action! Fresh off a globe-trotting European tour, Joel’s back in the host seat (and desperately trying to shake off the jet lag) while Emi steps in to keep t…

The Chad & Chees…

The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back in action! Fresh off a globe-trotting European tour, Joel’s back in the host seat (and desperately trying to shake off the jet lag) while Emi steps in to keep the chaos on the rails. In this episode, they’re roasting a talent market that’s officially gone off the deep end. From Korn Ferry dropping $1.1B on AMS to Handshake’s latest skilling play, they analyze whether these mega-deals actually make sense. Then, it's time for a massive AI reality check: Ford gets forced to rehire 350 "greybeard" engineers after automated systems fail, and …

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Hiring Became Our Edge With Kristen Reilly &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Hiring Became Our Edge with Kristen Reilly

"We went from 34% fully staffed to 96% fully staffed" Imagine needing to hire 3,000 part-time coaches in a chaotic 6-to-8-week summer sprint. For Elevo Learning, missing that target meant operational …

"We went from 34% fu…

"We went from 34% fully staffed to 96% fully staffed" Imagine needing to hire 3,000 part-time coaches in a chaotic 6-to-8-week summer sprint. For Elevo Learning, missing that target meant operational nightmares and broken client promises. In this episode, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Kristen Reilly to look under the hood of an incredible hiring turnaround. By ditching manual, archaic workflows and going "all in" on conversational AI, Elevo transformed their biggest bottleneck into a massive competitive advantage. The Highlights: The 96% Turnaround: How automating candidate e…

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Ageism In Tech: Dan Lyons On ‘Disrupted,’ Silicon Valley &Amp; Toxic Culture &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Ageism in Tech: Dan Lyons on ‘Disrupted,’ Silicon Valley & Toxic Culture

Maureen sits down with Dan Lyons — bestselling author of Disrupted, former Newsweek and Forbes journalist, and writer for HBO’s hit series Silicon Valley. At 52 years old, Dan made the jump from t…

Maureen sits down wi…

Maureen sits down with Dan Lyons — bestselling author of Disrupted, former Newsweek and Forbes journalist, and writer for HBO’s hit series Silicon Valley. At 52 years old, Dan made the jump from traditional media into a hyped tech startup… and quickly discovered he was suddenly “ancient” in an industry that worships youth. From bouncy ball chairs and candy walls to getting sized up as “someone’s parent” on day one, Dan delivers hilarious, painful, and brutally honest stories about ageism in tech. He breaks down the infamous CEO quote that sparked a company-wide controversy (“…

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Your Best Hire Already Left W/ Gustavo Serbia &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Your Best Hire Already Left w/ Gustavo Serbia

Next on Chad & Cheese: Hired to Chair in 3 Days ✂️🔥 Chad and Joel are punching the recruiting industry right where it hurts with Gustavo Serbia, CHRO at Hair Cuttery Family of Brands. They …

Next on Chad & C…

Next on Chad & Cheese: Hired to Chair in 3 Days ✂️🔥 Chad and Joel are punching the recruiting industry right where it hurts with Gustavo Serbia, CHRO at Hair Cuttery Family of Brands. They dive into the wild, hyper-competitive world of managing 6,000 stylists where the barriers to entry are zero and the drama is real. Quick Cuts: Slashing Time-to-Hire: How they used Paradox to ditch their sluggish Legacy ATS and compress a 17-day hiring process down to just 3 days. Gamifying Commission: Inside the custom app that shows stylists exactly what they make in real time to ince…

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The Snapchat &Amp; Anthropic Hype Machines &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
The Snapchat & Anthropic Hype Machines

On this week's episode: The Football Flops: Portugal woke up, while England was lulled to Sleep and Emi is losing her mind over corporate "hydration breaks". The Hype Block: The hosts rip into Sna…

On this week's episo…

On this week's episode: The Football Flops: Portugal woke up, while England was lulled to sleep and Emi is losing her mind over corporate "hydration breaks". The Hype Block: The hosts rip into Snapchat’s new $2,300 glasses (a chunky, $3 billion boat anchor that makes a good-looking CEO completely unfuckable). Meanwhile, Anthropic's CEO is treating his LLM like a "superweapon" that practically needs a gun license just to drive up valuation. Who’d You Rather?: Emi tries to take home three startups (Sloneek, HeyMilo, and Orbio) for an HR foursome. The New Indoor Malls: Oracle is slashi…

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Anthropic Biggest Lie | Snapchat Next Failure? | Ghost Jobs End | Oracle Cuts 21K | $3K Sleep Perk &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Anthropic Biggest Lie | Snapchat Next Failure? | Ghost Jobs End | Oracle Cuts 21K | $3K Sleep Perk

Is AI changing the world or just getting better at selling the dream? Snapchat says smart glasses are the future. Anthropic claims its AI is so powerful it should require a permit. But is any of it r…

Is AI changing the w…

Is AI changing the world or just getting better at selling the dream? Snapchat says smart glasses are the future. Anthropic claims its AI is so powerful it should require a permit. But is any of it real or just investor hype? Meanwhile, Oracle cuts 21,000 jobs as Google pours millions into training electricians, welders, and plumbers to build AI data centers. Is AI replacing white-collar workers while creating a new blue-collar boom? Plus, New York moves to crack down on ghost jobs, and one AI startup CEO buys every employee a $3,000 sleep system to boost performance. Chad and Emi separate…

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Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring W/ Maya Huber &Amp; Phuong Vu &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu

Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing…

Face it, "The Resume…

Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing a massive identity crisis. The old way is broken—so what comes next? The Face-Off: In this fast-paced episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, host Chad Sowash moderates a high-stakes debate between two tech founders reshaping talent acquisition: Phuong Vu (CEO of Telexa): The advocate for the "skills-first" organization. Phuong argues that true skills-based hiring means moving away from sta…

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Indeed Finally Got Ai Right? | Stanford Exposes Ai Hiring | $2 Ai Workforce | Meta Admits Mistakes &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed Finally Got AI Right? | Stanford Exposes AI Hiring | $2 AI Workforce | Meta Admits Mistakes

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad, J.T. and Lieven unpack a bombshell Stanford study that claims millions of job seekers are being filtered through the same flawed AI systems and the re…

This week on The Cha…

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Chad, J.T. and Lieven unpack a bombshell Stanford study that claims millions of job seekers are being filtered through the same flawed AI systems and the results aren't pretty. Meanwhile, Indeed says it has finally cracked AI sourcing with a new assistant that looks beyond keywords. But has the king of job boards actually gotten something right? And if that wasn't enough… Thousands of workers in India are reportedly getting paid just $2 an hour to record everyday tasks—essentially training the very AI systems that could replace them. Oh, and …

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Indeed'S Ai Bias Machine &Raquo; 80318A6Af54E3B4E4C6D89857Bae740E 3
Indeed's AI Bias Machine

If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Liev…

If you’ve been won…

If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Lieven are back to dissect the tech industry's latest "innovations" with their usual cocktail of empathy, candor, and plenty of well-deserved swearing. Indeed’s Blind Faith in AI Sourcing The Stanford Study: Proof You're Being Blacklisted Teaching Your Humanoid Replacement Zuckerberg Says "My Bad" (Sort Of) "Generating assumptive qualifications or requirements is a hiring dec…

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