New York Times bestselling author Martin Dugard joins Built Not Born to discuss his latest book βTaking Midwayβ and how he makes history as exciting as a spy thriller π΅οΈββοΈ. From co-authoring 12+ books in The Killing Series with Bill OβReilly to his solo Taking Series, Martin reveals his creative process for bringing pivotal moments in history to life β¨.
In this episode, Martin shares the incredible story of the Battle of Midway β the most decisive naval engagement of WWII that shifted global power from the British Empire to the American Empire π. Discover the intelligence breakthrough that changed everything, the courage of pilots who knew they wouldnβt survive, and why this battle saved democracy itself π¦ .
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Martin Dugard is a New York Times bestselling author 12-13 times over π and co-author of The Killing Series, which has sold over 19 million books worldwide π. His solo work includes the Taking Series: Taking Paris, Taking Berlin, Taking London, and Taking Midway πΊπΈ. Martin describes himself as βa gateway drug for historyβs casual readersβ and has mastered the art of making historical events as thrilling as modern spy novels π¬.
βI donβt have a research assistant, but Iβve got a really curious mind and itβs like I just donβt let go of a fact.β π§ β Martin Dugard
βIf we had lost [at Midway] and the Japanese had taken Midway, they wouldβve been in a perfect position to launch a completely destructive second raid on Pearl Harborβ¦ We wouldβve been completely out of the war in the Pacific.β β‘ β Martin Dugard
βThose sailors, when they came home from the war, if they had seen what we have going on in our country right now, I think they wouldβve been very disoriented. It is just weird to see history repeat itself.β π β Martin Dugard
[00:00] π¬ Introduction and Martinβs incredible publishing track record
[05:30] π‘ How Martin developed his βgateway drug to historyβ philosophy
[12:15] π€ The creative process behind The Killing Series collaboration with Bill OβReilly
[18:45] π Why Churchill was excited about Pearl Harbor
[25:20] βοΈ The Battle of Midway: Most decisive naval engagement of WWII
[32:10] π Lieutenant Commander Joseph Rochefortβs code-breaking breakthrough
[38:45] π The βYou donβt have to be crazy to work here, but it helpsβ sign
[42:30] π° Censorship, propaganda, and the βghostβ USS Yorktown
[48:15] π₯ Admiral Nimitz vs. Admiral Yamamoto: Leadership styles compared
[52:40] π How Midway marked the end of the British Empire, birth of American Empire
[58:25] π€ Why some battles capture popular imagination (Pearl Harbor vs. Wake Island)
[65:10] π Lessons from Midway relevant to today
[70:45] π¦ The courage of torpedo bomber and dive bomber pilots
[75:20] βοΈ Martinβs writing routine and research process
[80:15] π Favorite books and Bruce Springsteen influence
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