In this week’s episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Natalie Bullen, sales coach and messaging guru extraordinaire, about why public speaking is like going to the gym and how to build community. Find out which business choice she calls bullshit on.

Our favorite moments:

• (05:06) A slide deck is a liability
• (09:47) Your company’s band objective need to resonate in your speech
• (13:24) People who say they’re not good at public speaking really mean they haven’t practiced their skills enough
• (16:36) Do an audit of your ethos, mission, marketing, and mission at least once per quarter
• (19:50) Natalie’s advice for building community 
• (19:53) Show up every day
• (20:45) Identify your stakeholders
• (22:12) Have fun 
• (23:17) Create your own continuing Education calendar 
• (25:15) Hold yourself accountable for learning the thing it’ll take to grow your business 
• (27:13) If you want what you say that you want, you will walk the talk

If you enjoyed this conversation with a strong woman with strong opinions, check out Season 1, Episode 9: my interview with Cait Donovan on why Burnout is her superpower. The link is in the show notes. 

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Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/clmtY053I6D

For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/rjsNAgZhHZA

• Natalie Bullen’s Facebook page
• Natalie Bullen on Instagram – @unapologeticwealth
• Natalie Bullen’s website | Unapologetic Wealth
• How the CliftonStrengths Assessment Works | EN – Gallup
• TED: Ideas Worth Spreading
• S1 Ep 9 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking – Interview: Cait Donovan and Why Burnout is Her Superpower
• The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell | Hachette Book Group

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Kirsten Rourke CEO of Rourke Training

Kirsten Rourke is the mouth and mind of Rourke Training, LLC. She is on a mission to create engaging communication in online and in-person presentation and speaking spaces. Kirsten is the creator of the Prep, Practice, & Pivot method for elevating presenting and speaking skills. She works with leaders to transform online educational, sales, and corporate events to meet business and learning goals. She has spoken, coached, trained, and facilitated for thousands of companies internationally since 2000. She speaks on and provides expert coaching on Public Speaking, Running Virtual Events, Instructional Design, Storytelling, and Creating Online Engagement. In addition to being a Certified Technical Trainer and Certified Online Training Professional, she also has a Master’s of Education in Instructional Design. She also runs a podcast and community, Ongoing Mastery: Presenting and Speaking, to support development and improvement in creating successful, targeted results in pitches, sales presentations, training, and high-stake events.