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June 16th, 2026

What the FBI & DEA Look For in Candidates (From a 32-Year Veteran) | Jack McFarland

What does it actually take to get hired by the world’s most elite federal law enforcement agencies? On this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Chad and Cheese sit down with Jack McFarland—a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor.

From the brutal 9-month typewriter-era application process to the grueling psychological screening tactics used to pick the top 1% of candidates, Jack pulls back the curtain on how the FBI and DEA actually vet talent. We dive deep into high-stakes interview strategies, what civilian corporate recruiters can learn from Quantico’s legendary screening process, and why the government forces out its top agents at age 57 just to rehired them later.

Whether you’re a hiring manager looking to upgrade your talent acquisition game or just obsessed with true-crime insider secrets, this is the episode your weed guy warned you about. Like, subscribe, and drop your thoughts below!

0:00 – Intro
01:16 – Jack’s "Twitter Bio"
01:51 – Shout to Pennsylvania Football
02:56 – Traitors Season 5 Application
08:45 – DEA Hiring Process
11:48 – DEA Brand
15:52 – Managing DEA Teams
18:20 – Jack’s Career Progression
21:23 – DEA Retirement
27:00 – Career after DEA
29:54 – Human Intelligence at DEA
34:25 – Unbiased Hiring
37:57 – Connect with Jack

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The Chad & Cheese Podcast brings more than 40 years of combined experience to the podcast industry, Chad & Cheese adds a unique perspective and brash flavor to the generally bland stew of hum-drum “yes-yes” and ass-kiss rhetoric that you normally get from people in recruitment, talent management, technology, and workforce economics.