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  1. Lower bandwidth: Are you getting attention for your content? Want a real member of the "Mad Men" to give you some pointers? Making Conversations Count - (Sales and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris) and John Follis 44:50

Is your stuff getting attention that it deserves?

“What it does is it forces businesses to realize that people’s attention span is very short. They probably are not going to listen or watch to a 30 minutes podcast, but they will listen to and watch a 30 second video.”

John Follis, Making Conversations Count – October 2022 

Psst! Click if you want to read a transcript version of the episode

Is your stuff getting the attention that you know it deserves?

When you post a video, does it get views? When you publish a podcast episode, do people listen to it?

When you type out your thoughts, do people read them?

This is the subject of this week’s conversation.

We’re privileged to have a real, honest-to-biscuits, bona-fide member of the “Mad Men”.

John Follis joins our Wendywoo to chat through podcasting, explainer videos, Tik Tok and Instagram.

And not just the online social stuff.

The real life social stuff too!…


You’ll learn…

  • John’s experience with leveraging his podcast as a discovery tool before social was a thing (01m30s)
  • Success is about timing (08m30s)
  • Whatever platform or medium you use, you’ve got to get the messaging right (14m29s)
  • The algorithms are constantly changing (20m11s)
  • John’s conversation that counted (23m30s)


What IS Making Conversations Count?


“Making Conversations Count” is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.


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Wendy Harris Making Conversations Count Podcast

What can I tell you about me?! I'm very good at getting other people to talk about themselves. Having been in the sales arena for over 3 decades, my skillset has developed to enable others to introduce their services to other businesses. Talking about myself always feels odd.

But here goes. I've made over 2 million phone calls in my career, helped 1000's people pick up the phone and have better conversations which has leaked into life in general, I've created billions of £££'s in opportunities to do business.

I love nothing more than listening to other people's stories and gently guiding people to share their insights with others.

Whenever I'm in training it's always interactive and fun. I truly believe we learn by being involved.

It's why I started my podcast, to share these stories and be helpful to the business community. I also wrote a book with many of my training exercises in it for those starting out as the demands of your cash flow when you get going mean there's often a wheel not oiled as it should be.

For me, conversations is where it all happens.

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