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May 19th, 2026

The Grief Advice Nobody Gives You, According to Lisa Woolery: It's OK to Be a Mess, and It's OK to Laugh About It

  1. The Grief Advice Nobody Gives You, According to Lisa Woolery: It's OK to Be a Mess, and It's OK to Laugh About It Emily Thiroux Threatt 25:14

If you’ve ever felt pressure to hold it together after loss, Episode 430 of the Grief and Happiness podcast is for you. Widow, author, and mentor Lisa Woolery shares the unfiltered reality of grief — from bank meltdowns to ill-fated Dating attempts — and makes a compelling case for why laughter is one of the most powerful healing tools available. Giving yourself permission to be a hot mess, she says, is the first step toward your comeback.

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

(00:52) From Southern California to Kansas City: the sudden loss that changed everything

(03:42) Why most grief books fall short and what Lisa did differently

(05:11) Writing funny chapters about grief’s most painful moments

(07:46) Why laughing without guilt is a powerful grief recovery tool

(10:12) Dating as a widow: sharing her lowest moments so others feel less alone

(13:22) Emily’s story: finding Love again after swearing she never would

(14:01) The dream that gave Lisa permission to move forward

(16:55) Why widows must stop judging each other’s grief journeys

(18:35) What not to say to a widow — and what actually helps

(19:55) You can handle anything, but you don’t have to do it all

(22:50) Why Lisa keeps saying yes to new adventures

Lisa Woolery is a widow, author, and widow mentor based in Kansas City, Missouri, raising two teenagers and three dogs after losing her husband Eric suddenly — just eight months after their Family relocated from Southern California. A former Vice President of Public Relations at Wells Fargo, Lisa channeled her grief into The Widow’s Comeback, an International Impact Award-winning memoir about her first two years of widowhood, alongside a grief calendar workbook, guided journal, and an active Facebook community for widows.

In this episode, Lisa shares why she wrote her memoir with raw honesty and deliberate humor — a direct response to the sugar-coated grief narratives she encountered after Eric’s death. From laugh-out-loud chapters about bank meltdowns to candid reflections on the guilt-laden process of dating again, she shows how comedy and self-permission became essential tools in her healing. The conversation closes on Lisa’s most powerful takeaway: that she can handle anything, but doesn’t have to do everything alone — and that while the “hot mess” phase is real, it doesn’t last forever.

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Books: Lisa Woolery – The Widow’s Comeback Series

 

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Book: Emily Thiroux Threatt – Loving and Living Your Way Through Grief


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Emily Thiroux Threatt Podcast Host, Facilitator, Author

Having gone through the experience of the deaths of so many loved ones, I have learned to face life with love, optimism, and joy.

I have kept journals and written to express myself most of my life which led me to a career of teaching writing and writing books. I naturally turned to writing to help deal with my grief, then I discovered I could use writing to help friends deal with grief, too.

In contemplating how I could best help the grieving people I was working with, my Ignite moment came when realized the importance of helping people understand the importance of happiness and how they could grieve and be happy at the same time.

To share my message, I host the Grief and Happiness podcast, I wrote the book Loving and Living Your Way Though Grief, I facilitate weekly meetings of the Grief and Happiness Alliance, I founded the Grief and Happiness nonprofit foundation, I publish a weekly newsletter and blog, and my new book, The Grief and Happiness Handbook is coming out soon.