From Moral Injury to Moral Realignment

With special guest Dr. Debra Borys, a clinical psychologist licensed in California with long-standing interest and concern for nature and the environment. She is co-founder and co-chair of the LA County Psychological Association Eco-Psychology Special Interest Group, an active member of the Climate Psychology Alliance of North America and a trained Climate Café leader.  You can find Dr Borys here and you can get on her wait list here  in order to gain access to the workshops she and Nikyta Palmisani created. 

Three things you’ll take away:

• Panu Pihkala’s three-part coping framework, emotional expression, restorative time-out, and values-based action,  and why all three have to be present, in the right balance, for any of them to work
• How the From Moral Injury to Moral Alignment program actually runs — what happens in the room, why the group design is not accidental, and what participants consistently say when it’s over
• What one of the world’s leading ecopsychologists does personally to stay viable while working inside the weight of all of this. AND the one organisational practice any leader could start tomorrow

Resource mentioned: 

Panu Pihkala

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