What does the future of hospice care really look like—and who’s shaping it?
In Part Two of this compelling conversation, healthcare leaders Tom Koutsoumpas and Carole Fisher join Chris Comeaux and Cordt Kassner to discuss the future of hospice reform, Medicare modernization, quality care standards, and the challenges facing nonprofit hospice providers across America.
From fraud prevention and workforce shortages to Medicare Advantage and innovative disease-specific care models, this episode delivers an inside look at the policy, leadership, and operational decisions shaping the future of end-of-life care.
Whether you’re a healthcare executive, hospice professional, nonprofit leader, policymaker, or business leader, this discussion provides valuable insight into how hospice organizations can remain relevant, sustainable, and mission-driven in a rapidly evolving healthcare environment.
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Episode Highlights
✔️ Why hospice quality reporting and transparency matter more than ever
✔️ The growing impact of Medicare Advantage on hospice care
✔️ Challenges facing nonprofit hospice organizations
✔️ Innovation in palliative care and disease-specific support models
✔️ How NPHI is advocating for hospice reform and accountability
✔️ The workforce and financial pressures affecting hospice providers
✔️ The truth about the hospice carve-in debate and what the data shows
✔️ Why leadership and mission remain critical in end-of-life care
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Key Quote From The Episode
“The future of hospice and palliative care is making sure we are staying relevant, necessary, and sustainable.” — Carole Fisher
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About This Episode
This episode explores the intersection of healthcare leadership, hospice advocacy, Medicare reform, patient-centered care, and operational sustainability. The conversation emphasizes the importance of preserving the mission of hospice while adapting to changing healthcare systems and patient expectations.
Featured Guests
🔹 Tom Koutsoumpas — National Partnership for Healthcare and Hospice Innovation (NPHI)
🔹 Carole Fisher — President, NPHI
🎙️ Hosted by Chris Comeaux, President / CEO of TELEIOS
Co-Hosted by Cordt Kassner, PhD, Publisher of Hospice & Palliative Care
Today & CEO and Founder of Hospice Analytics
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