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January 30th, 2026

Don’t Say Crazy to Me: Marion Hoffman Koenig on Empathy, Mental Health Advocacy, and Turning Loss into Kindness

  1. Don’t Say Crazy to Me: Marion Hoffman Koenig on Empathy, Mental Health Advocacy, and Turning Loss into Kindness Mary McCorvey 30:13

In this episode of Experience Over Expectation, Mary McCorvey sits down with memoirist and mental Health advocate Marion Hoffman Koenig, author of Don’t Say Crazy to Me.

Marion’s story moves through Grief, creativity, 1980s New York energy, and the strange, tender places where humor and death sit at the same table. We talk about what it means to be an empath, how empathy can help and how it can misfire, and why “crazy” is often just a lazy label for what someone does not understand.

You will also hear practical grounding tools Marion uses in real life, including square breathing, plus a powerful reminder: you can show up for someone in pain without losing yourself.

Get the books

  1. Don’t Say Crazy to Me (Marion Hoffman Koenig)
  2. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Say-Crazy-Me-Sinatra-ebook/dp/B0FVGF7Z75
  3. Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dont-say-crazy-to-me-marion-hoffman-koenig/1148689899
  4. Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/242577401-don-t-say-crazy-to-me
  5. Experience Over Expectation (Mary McCorvey)
  6. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FPJ9NK4H?ref_=pe_93986420_775043100

Connect with Marion

  1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marion-koenig/

Mary McCorvey is a veteran of the Gulf War, founder of 7 companies, TV producer, author, radio host, and playwright whose life reads like a memoir—because it is one. From being implicated in a murder at 17 to surviving sarin gas exposure in Kuwait, Mary’s story is defined by resilience, reinvention, and one core question: What do you do… when life keeps rewriting the script?

After being diagnosed with terminal pulmonary fibrosis and told she had two years to live, Mary defied the odds. She rebuilt her life after betrayal, launched a mission to send students’ work to the Moon, and most recently, opened a locked box she’d carried for 35 years—unleashing a memoir-in-motion about love, memory, and healing.

Now the host of the podcast and author of the book, Experience Over Expectation, Mary brings wit, warmth, and depth to conversations about identity, aging, forgiveness, and second chances. She’s equally at home discussing trauma and tenacity as she is laughing through the absurdities of life.

Mary lives—and thrives—in Pennsylvania, with a story to tell and a mic in hand.