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June 13th, 2025

CareerBuilder + Monster Layoffs, Indeed’s Latest Foray into AI Chatbots, SmartRecruiter’s Winston AI

This week’s episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast the guys are joined by J.T. Odonnell, founder and CEO at Work It Daily, to unpack HR chaos, AI breakthroughs, and a major shakeup in the job board world.

CareerBuilder + Monster layoffs are making headlines as both companies are reportedly planning to close their U.S. headquarters office. It’s a major move that signals serious turbulence for two of the industry’s oldest players. Is this the end of an era — or just the beginning of more disruption?

Meanwhile, Indeed’s latest foray into AI chatbots is making waves. We dive into the Indeed Career Scout AI tool and Indeed Talent Scout AI tool, exploring how the platform is using generative tech to fight job scams on the rise. Can AI actually clean up the mess? Or is it just smoke and mirrors?

And it’s not just Indeed. SmartRecruiter Winston AI is officially here, adding even more noise to the crowded AI tools market. We dig into what it can actually do — and whether it moves the needle.

Plus, Workday Economy launches as a new concept in HR tech — but what does it even mean? We break it down.

Finally, we turn to the rise of UGC and how user generated content is dominating recruitment marketing. With UGC advertising fueling platforms like YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram, traditional media is taking a backseat. What does that mean for employers? We’ve got thoughts.

00:00 – In this Episode
2:30 – Joel’s University Party
6:06 – Joel’s Shout out to Father’s Day
8:10 – J.T.’s Shout out to Mark Even
9:08 – Chad’s Shout out to Mark Even’s Tweet
12:16 – FREE Stuff
14:01 – Happy Birthday Dear Listeners!
14:29 – Upcoming Events
16:42 – CareerBuilder + Monster Shuts US Office
31:53 – Indeed’s AI Leap: Career Scout, Talent Scout, and Scam Alerts
42:39 – SmartRecruiters’s Winston AI & Workday Launches ‘Workday Economy’
52:23 – YouTube, TikTok, Instagram Eclipse TV in Ad Spend

J.T.’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtodonnell/

Thanks to our Sponsors: Harri, Paradox AI, JobPixel and Shaker Recruitment Marketing

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The Chad & Cheese Podcast brings more than 40 years of combined experience to the podcast industry, Chad & Cheese adds a unique perspective and brash flavor to the generally bland stew of hum-drum “yes-yes” and ass-kiss rhetoric that you normally get from people in recruitment, talent management, technology, and workforce economics.