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Depression and progression: why the conversation matters!

  1. Depression and progression: why the conversation matters! Wendy Harris (Communication trainer) 45:27

Are you being realistic in your expected results? Are you headed for depression or progression?

“I just want to let you know, most likely you will never accomplish what we have in the podcast industry, because we are the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. ” – Kevin Palmieri, Making Conversations Count – March 2023 

In an area with expensive internet? Here’s a lower bandwidth version for you


Let’s talk about applying ‘next level’ thinking to figure out how we can escape depression and enjoy progression! 

In this podcast episode, Wendy talks to Kevin Palmieri about his work with Next Level University, a self-improvement platform that he co-founded with his friend Alan.

Kevin shares his journey to becoming hyperconscious and how he and Alan reconnected after a falling out in high school.

He also talks about leaving his miserable job, partnering with Alan, and starting the Hyperconscious Podcast. After 450 episodes, they rebranded to Next Level University.

You’ll learn…

  • Wendy’s plans for this podcast
  •  How Kevin’s podcast came about
  •  The journey from depression to progression
  • Kevin’s conversation that counted

Kevin’s links:

Kevin Palmieri Instagram

Kevin’s LinkedIn (although he isn’t into LinkedIn!)


What IS Making Conversations Count?


“Making Conversations Count” is a podcast from telemarketing and communication trainer Wendy Harris.

In it, she shares how to use conversation to build relationships in business.


Missed our previous episodes?


You can catch up with any of the other guests we’ve been making conversations count with, here:


Listen to Making Conversations Count


On your mobile device? Hear the conversations in your favourite platform (Apple or Spotify etc) here:

Wendy Harris Making Conversations Count Podcast

What can I tell you about me?! I'm very good at getting other people to talk about themselves. Having been in the sales arena for over 3 decades, my skillset has developed to enable others to introduce their services to other businesses. Talking about myself always feels odd.

But here goes. I've made over 2 million phone calls in my career, helped 1000's people pick up the phone and have better conversations which has leaked into life in general, I've created billions of £££'s in opportunities to do business.

I love nothing more than listening to other people's stories and gently guiding people to share their insights with others.

Whenever I'm in training it's always interactive and fun. I truly believe we learn by being involved.

It's why I started my podcast, to share these stories and be helpful to the business community. I also wrote a book with many of my training exercises in it for those starting out as the demands of your cash flow when you get going mean there's often a wheel not oiled as it should be.

For me, conversations is where it all happens.

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