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Mash Up Episode ft. 12 Rules For Leaders Deep Dive – Leadership Models from Sun-Tzu to Albert Murray w/David Baumrucker & Jesan Sorrells

  1. Mash Up Episode ft. 12 Rules For Leaders Deep Dive - Leadership Models from Sun-Tzu to Albert Murray w/David Baumrucker & Jesan Sorrells 1:43:32

Mash Up Episode ft. 12 Rules For Leaders Deep Dive – Leadership Models from Sun-Tzu to Albert Murray w/David Baumrucker & Jesan Sorrells

Explore the gap between leadership models and real-world practice as Jesan Sorrells and guest David Baumrucker examine the pitfalls of rigid frameworks and the necessity for leader courage in today’s volatile environment. They discuss the enduring value of classical Wisdom, the influence of myth according to Carl Jung, and the critical challenge Technology poses to authentic leadership and organizational culture. The conversation is rooted in Sorrells’ own “12 Rules for Leaders: The Foundation of Intentional Leadership” and explores how timeless principles offer guidance for navigating the uncertainty ahead.

  • Book Title: 12 Rules for Leaders: The Foundation of Intentional Leadership 
  • Author: Jesan Sorrells
  • Guests: David Baumrucker (Co-Host), Jesan Sorrells (Host)


Time-Stamped Overview

00:00 Developing leadership principles

10:02 Models as compass, not map

11:04 Modern leadership and experiential learning

20:47 Rediscovering true leadership basics

25:20 Signs of ineffective leadership

30:54 Understanding leadership and the shadow

33:39 Understanding leadership archetypes and the shadow

41:55 Returning to healthy masculine and feminine

46:29 Fire as a metaphor for Growth

52:07 Rethinking our relationship with technology

58:58 Disconnecting from nature and myth

01:04:08 Practical AI tools for everyday use

01:06:03 AI’s impact on workplace loyalty

01:13:10 Society’s challenges and survival pressures

01:17:11 The new American project vision

01:25:24 Questioning leadership and blind faith

01:29:31 Talking about the Word and creation

01:35:59 The role of Gen Z in change

01:37:59 Passing wisdom to future generations


Opening and closing themes composed by Brian Sanyshyn of Brian Sanyshyn Music.


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Jesan is the Founder of Leadership ToolBox, LeaderBuzz, and LeadingKeys. He's a 3x "least selling" business book author, and host of Leadership Lessons From The Great Books podcast, and serves as a start-up advisor and leadership team member with GrowthCraft Start-Up Community out of Boston.