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March 12th, 2026

190 User Experience with Anthony, Chris, and Steph

  1. 190 User Experience with Anthony, Chris, and Steph Anthony Franco 44:15

In this episode, we break down what user experience actually means — and it’s not what most founders think. UX isn’t your app’s color scheme or button placement. It’s the entire chain from first contact to renewal, and every gap in that chain is costing you customers you’ll never get back.

Anthony Franco, founder of the world’s first UX agency, joins Stephanie and Chris to unpack the most common UX mistakes founders make: building for themselves instead of their users, confusing pretty design with functional design, and optimizing for surface requests instead of root causes. You’ll hear the story of the refresh button that revealed what users actually needed, why churn is always a late warning signal, and how design thinking is becoming the only real differentiator in an AI-saturated market.

Whether you’re building software or selling services, this conversation will change how you see every customer interaction you’ve ever designed.

Keywords: user experience design, UX for founders, product design, customer experience, design thinking, AI product design, user research, product management, founder mistakes, UX strategy

Anthony Franco Entrepreneur and Chief AI Officer

Most AI advice comes from people who have never built anything. Anthony Franco has built seven companies and exited six, including Effective Inc., a UX consultancy that served 40% of the Fortune 100, grew to $50M in revenue, and was acquired by WPP. The rest spanned consumer products, AI platforms, wireless networks, marketing software, and real estate. That track record is why he approaches AI differently: he has seen how organizations actually adopt technology, where they break, and what it costs when they get it wrong.

He coordinates contributions to AI First Principles, an open-source framework that gives teams a shared foundation for AI decisions. He wrote The WISER Method to turn those principles into something practitioners can run in the field. As Chief AI Officer of First Strategy, he works directly with companies on AI automation and go-to-market strategy.

He also co-hosts How to Founder, a podcast about building companies without the mythology.