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Moving Abroad After Divorce and Finding a New Community with Jennifer Sontag

  1. Moving Abroad After Divorce and Finding a New Community with Jennifer Sontag Amy Stone 47:16

If you Love the show and you’d like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jennifer Sontag about navigating radical life transitions, from divorce and empty nesting to international relocation and career transformation. Jennifer currently calls Sicily, Italy home. Listeners and viewers will learn about the reality of moving abroad, how personal crises can lead to unexpected opportunity, and why adaptability matters more than ever when adulting gets messy.

Jennifer Sontag is the founder of ViaMonde, a relocation agency which helps Americans relocate to Spain and Italy. Jennifer has always paved her own path, at just 19-years-old, Jennifer opened her first maternity boutique, The Stork’s Nest, that at the age of 28 she would sell to Macy’s — she’s always known how to turn a leap of faith into a thriving enterprise.

Main Topics Covered:

  1. Overcoming the triple challenge of divorce, empty nesting, and a career change—all at once.
  2. The psychological impact of upheaval and why compartmentalization works in crisis.
  3. Rebuilding life after loss: moving cities, Downsizing possessions, and taking bold leaps abroad.
  4. The real story of landing in China: dealing with scams, illegal visas, and pivoting into a new professional identity.
  5. Why adult expectations and flexibility matter when navigating unfamiliar cultures.
  6. The role of expat communities and Relationships in shaping Jennifer’s European adventure.
  7. Key lessons for Americans considering immigration or expat living, including visa realities.
  8. The importance of following your own timeline and embracing change as a pathway to Growth.

Quote from the Episode:

“I have journals, and so I know it was hard because I’ve read the journals. I’ve got the receipts… so I know that I was feeling down at that point and that it was really hard, but I don’t remember it.” — Jennifer Sontag

Timestamps:

01:14 Jennifer shares why she calls Sicily home and the joys of living there

02:10 The triple upheaval: divorce, kids launching, career change

03:08 How all major changes happened simultaneously

05:03 Moving from Cleveland back to St. Louis, then onward to China

06:44 Jennifer’s reflection: journaling, memory, and finding silver linings

08:10 Deciding to move abroad for personal growth and adventure

11:54 Downsizing, leaving with two suitcases, and planning a “bridge year”

13:13 Arriving in China: discovering job scams and quickly pivoting

15:27 Landing on her feet: transitioning to teaching business management

16:57 Adapting expectations at midlife—why adulting abroad is different

18:34 Finding expat community and a new teaching career in Shanghai

22:01 Navigating COVID, Health setbacks, and the evolving global landscape

27:22 About ViaMond: helping Americans and others with expat journeys

34:23 Common expat misconceptions—especially among Americans

41:06 Jennifer describes her perfect day of relaxation by the sea

45:30 Wrapping up: reflections, takeaways, and how listeners can connect

ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life’s choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there’s a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person’s lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.

CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.viamonde.eu/

Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting

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Why subscribe?

  • Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast app
  • Get guest offers delivered straight to your inbox
  • Access all important links in one convenient place
  • Catch the highlights even when you don’t have time to listen

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If you have a story to share and you’d like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest

Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links 🙂

For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69

Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi

Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590

Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj

For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone

before that I used Kit.

Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

Amy Stone is a media entrepreneur, storyteller, and founder of The Art of Imperfect Adulting - a growing media platform featuring long-form interviews that explore the messy, non-linear reality of building a life.

Amy is a journalism graduate who started her career as a freelance newspaper photographer. Driven by the desire to be able to pay her bills she took a job in marketing and later client service at a tech startup in the late '90s before building multiple businesses of her own - including an award-winning family portrait studio she ran for 8 years. After closing the studio and moving through fitness and lifestyle coaching, she realized the work that mattered most wasn't offering her own expertise - it was creating a space where real people share real stories about the everyday choices that shape a life.

Moving Abroad After Divorce and Finding a New Community with Jennifer Sontag

  1. Moving Abroad After Divorce and Finding a New Community with Jennifer Sontag Amy Stone 47:16

If you Love the show and you’d like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support

In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Jennifer Sontag about navigating radical life transitions, from divorce and empty nesting to international relocation and career transformation. Jennifer currently calls Sicily, Italy home. Listeners and viewers will learn about the reality of moving abroad, how personal crises can lead to unexpected opportunity, and why adaptability matters more than ever when adulting gets messy.

Jennifer Sontag is the founder of ViaMonde, a relocation agency which helps Americans relocate to Spain and Italy. Jennifer has always paved her own path, at just 19-years-old, Jennifer opened her first maternity boutique, The Stork’s Nest, that at the age of 28 she would sell to Macy’s — she’s always known how to turn a leap of faith into a thriving enterprise.

Main Topics Covered:

  1. Overcoming the triple challenge of divorce, empty nesting, and a career change—all at once.
  2. The psychological impact of upheaval and why compartmentalization works in crisis.
  3. Rebuilding life after loss: moving cities, Downsizing possessions, and taking bold leaps abroad.
  4. The real story of landing in China: dealing with scams, illegal visas, and pivoting into a new professional identity.
  5. Why adult expectations and flexibility matter when navigating unfamiliar cultures.
  6. The role of expat communities and Relationships in shaping Jennifer’s European adventure.
  7. Key lessons for Americans considering immigration or expat living, including visa realities.
  8. The importance of following your own timeline and embracing change as a pathway to Growth.

Quote from the Episode:

“I have journals, and so I know it was hard because I’ve read the journals. I’ve got the receipts… so I know that I was feeling down at that point and that it was really hard, but I don’t remember it.” — Jennifer Sontag

Timestamps:

01:14 Jennifer shares why she calls Sicily home and the joys of living there

02:10 The triple upheaval: divorce, kids launching, career change

03:08 How all major changes happened simultaneously

05:03 Moving from Cleveland back to St. Louis, then onward to China

06:44 Jennifer’s reflection: journaling, memory, and finding silver linings

08:10 Deciding to move abroad for personal growth and adventure

11:54 Downsizing, leaving with two suitcases, and planning a “bridge year”

13:13 Arriving in China: discovering job scams and quickly pivoting

15:27 Landing on her feet: transitioning to teaching business management

16:57 Adapting expectations at midlife—why adulting abroad is different

18:34 Finding expat community and a new teaching career in Shanghai

22:01 Navigating COVID, Health setbacks, and the evolving global landscape

27:22 About ViaMond: helping Americans and others with expat journeys

34:23 Common expat misconceptions—especially among Americans

41:06 Jennifer describes her perfect day of relaxation by the sea

45:30 Wrapping up: reflections, takeaways, and how listeners can connect

ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life’s choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there’s a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person’s lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.

CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.viamonde.eu/

Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting

Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect Adulting

We invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you’ll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.

Why subscribe?

  • Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast app
  • Get guest offers delivered straight to your inbox
  • Access all important links in one convenient place
  • Catch the highlights even when you don’t have time to listen

Are you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.com

If you have a story to share and you’d like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guest

Here are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links 🙂

For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69

Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi

Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590

Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofj

For Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stone

before that I used Kit.

Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors

Amy Stone is a media entrepreneur, storyteller, and founder of The Art of Imperfect Adulting - a growing media platform featuring long-form interviews that explore the messy, non-linear reality of building a life.

Amy is a journalism graduate who started her career as a freelance newspaper photographer. Driven by the desire to be able to pay her bills she took a job in marketing and later client service at a tech startup in the late '90s before building multiple businesses of her own - including an award-winning family portrait studio she ran for 8 years. After closing the studio and moving through fitness and lifestyle coaching, she realized the work that mattered most wasn't offering her own expertise - it was creating a space where real people share real stories about the everyday choices that shape a life.