1. Stop Being Afraid Of Talking About Grief with Colin Campbell Emily Thiroux Threatt 28:56

Once we stop being afraid of the pain, talking about those we lost and focusing on our love for them becomes easier. 

In this episode, I’m joined by Colin Campbell, the father of Ruby and Hart, who were killed by a drunk driver when they were 17 and 14. Colin is a renowned writer and director for film and theater, nominated for an Academy Award, and winner of Best Writer, Best Director, and several Best Film Awards. He is currently presenting “Grief: A One Man Shitshow,” written and performed by him with tremendous success. 

Colin also wrote “Finding The Words: Working Through Profound Loss with Hope and Purpose,” which offers an alternative way of coping with loss and Grief based on his experiences and pain processing. 

We had a fantastic conversation about society’s inability to talk about Grief, Colin’s decision to explore this issue through art with his tragic-comic solo show, and the importance of taking action and doing something with our Grief instead of being passive recipients. 

In addition, we chat about Colin’s book, how facing the fear of pain can help us move forward, and so much more.

Listen to episode 132 of Grief and Happiness to hear more about Colin’s Grief story and the tools he used to avoid being paralyzed by it.

In This Episode, You Will Learn:

  • A bit about the tools Colin discovered while navigating his Grief (3:20)
  • Part of being humans is talking about the events in our lives, including the traumatic ones (8:10)
  • How to allow ourselves to experience joy without compartmentalizing Grief (11:10)
  • Colin shares advice on how to approach someone grieving (15:00)
  • How Grief groups and therapy can help us navigate Grief (22:10)
  • How facing the fear of pain can change our lives (25:20)


  • Book: Colin Campbell – Finding the Words: Working Through Profound Loss with Hope and Purpose

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Emily Thiroux Threatt Podcast Host, Facilitator, Author

Having gone through the experience of the deaths of so many loved ones, I have learned to face life with love, optimism, and joy.

I have kept journals and written to express myself most of my life which led me to a career of teaching writing and writing books. I naturally turned to writing to help deal with my grief, then I discovered I could use writing to help friends deal with grief, too.

In contemplating how I could best help the grieving people I was working with, my Ignite moment came when realized the importance of helping people understand the importance of happiness and how they could grieve and be happy at the same time.

To share my message, I host the Grief and Happiness podcast, I wrote the book Loving and Living Your Way Though Grief, I facilitate weekly meetings of the Grief and Happiness Alliance, I founded the Grief and Happiness nonprofit foundation, I publish a weekly newsletter and blog, and my new book, The Grief and Happiness Handbook is coming out soon.